This probably shouldn’t be surprising to anyone, but Mary Trump the niece of former President Donald Trump said she heard her family saying racist things on a daily basis when she was growing up.

Mary Trump, is, of course, one of her uncle’s harshest critics and during a podcast, host Karen Hunter of The Karen Hunter Show, asked her how she became “radicalized” despite growing up with a “semi-privileged family,” Newsweek reports.

“Was it the disinheritance?” Hunter asked. She was referring to a million dollar real estate portfolio that Mary’s father left for her after his death in 1981. But the former president, Mary’s other uncle Robert Trump, and her aunt Maryanne Trump allegedly “squeezed” her out of the inheritance, according to Reuters. Mary filed a lawsuite against her family but was unsuccessful.

But Mary responded that her criticism of her family wasn’t relevant to the inheritance case, but was instead related to their racism. This even includes her grandparents, who lived in Jamaica Estates, New York, a neighborhood that she characterized as “100 percent White and very upper middle class,” when she was a girl.

Jamaica, New York, where she actually lived in the 1960s and ’70s, was a different story, being predominantly Black at the time.

“So I walked to the subway every day to go to school and I walked home and I passed by shops that were Black-owned. Most of the people I interacted with in stores and stuff were Black and I would listen to the racism in my family, and then I’d have my own experience as a kid growing up in Jamaica. I didn’t know what the hell they were talking about,” Mary said. “You’re demeaning this entire class of people and that is so far from my experience. It doesn’t make sense.”

She didn’t provide examples of what her family said that she considered racist but I have to admit these kinds of things confused me as a kid. My father was not racist, but my mother was and pretended that she wasn’t. It used to confuse the hell out of me. This was obviously confusing for her as well.

“My parents didn’t have any Black friends and everybody at my school practically was White. It was just this weird cognitive dissonance. I just grew up with this sort of unformed notion that racism was just absolute nonsense and anybody who subscribed to it was an idiot at best.”

Trump has, of course, faced well-deserved accusations of racism. If you remember, he described the White nationalists who took part in the Unite The Right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia in 2017 as “very fine people.” He inflicted scores of unidentified federal law enforcement officers, many of whom were from the Department of Homeland Security on peaceful protesters who were demonstrating against the death of George Floyd.

On the campaign trail, he called Mexicans “criminals” and “rapists” and banned people from largely Muslim countries from entering the U.S. during his presidency.

Because that’s just part and parcel of who this man is. I’m sure Mary Trump is more than happy to be well away from this. Who can blame her?

I’ve included a clip of Mary Trump’s interview with Karen Hunter below.