A lot of people were astounded by the sudden change of heart by Trump hardliner Sidney Powell, the attorney charged alongside him in Georgia. She accepted a deal in exchange for a guilty plea that will require her to testify in future trials involving Trump.

Appearing on CNN Thursday, the New York Times‘ Maggie Haberman told Dana Bash that the flip surprised everyone, given Powell’s previous unwavering commitment to the narrative of a stolen election.

Calling it one of the “best-kept secrets” of the prosecution, Haberman said that those in Trump’s circle don’t know exactly what it will all mean yet.

“They are still trying to figure out what it means,” she said. “There are some people in his world who are telling me they don’t think this is that big of a deal for him — they think her ability to actually really testify is marginal. They are arguing that this shows that the DA [Fani Willis] overcharged in this case.”

Still others told Haberman that DA Fani Willis “intentionally charged this way so she could end up getting guilty pleas.” It could be that others besides Trump need to worry, Haberman declared, saying “There’s concern about the degree to which Powell could offer information, not just about former President Trump, but about Rudy Giuliani.”

Of course, most of Trump’s time is currently being spent thinking about — and trying to influence — what happens in his New York fraud lawsuit. That suit will end up costing him a lot of money. In fact, after a summary judgment by Judge Arthur Engoron, the world is basically waiting to see how much of the $250 million in damages NY Attorney General Letitia James is seeking will actually be awarded.

But that will cost him “face” too. That trial is about his businesses, which he knows all too well he’s cheated at. There are some who think Trump actually believes he’s done nothing wrong in the documents or election interference cases, and that’s why he doesn’t spend a lot of time thinking about them.

But, as Haberman concluded, “There’s nobody in Trump world who is pretending this is a good development. They’re just split on what exactly it means.”