CNN’s Dana Bash hosted a panel of New Hampshire voters just ahead of Tuesday’s primary vote to take the pulse of how people are feeling. She showed the panel a video clip of one voter whose opinion of Trump has drastically changed since 2016, saying “I have met, just in being here, back here the last 24 hours several New Hampshire voters who did vote for Trump in 2016 and are now not because of chaos like this. I want you to listen to one, Daniel Casperson.”

She then rolled the footage.

Casperson: I voted for Trump the very first election, yes.

Bash: In 2016? [Casperson nods] And why not now?

Casperson: Why not now? Because I feel that, I’m not going to tell you what I really feel, but I think that he’s not very a very honest person. And, I think that he did a real disservice to our country on January 6th.

Bash: And was that when you lost faith in him?

Casperson: No, I lost faith in him a long time before that.

One panelist, Jackie Kucinich of the Boston Globe, spoke up first:

“That’s exactly who Nikki Haley used to come out for her. That voter, voters who maybe voted for Trump, then voted for Biden. Those voters who, you know, really want to vote for a Republican again, but they’re not going to vote for Trump.

“Those persuadable voters are exactly who you know, she needs, whether they’re, you know, undecided voters or whether they’re Republicans who are just, as she says, like, over the drama. Um, it’s the same voters that DeSantis targeted, frankly, and Chris Christie in a lot of ways. He was much more aggressive about criticizing Trump than Haley and DeSantis. But that’s the same pool of convincing voters that any challenger to the former president is going to need to pull to defeat him in a state like New Hampshire.”

And the fact is, this has to be the case all over the country. Heck, there were plenty of people who voted for him the first time simply because he was the Republican option. If they can knock him out in the primaries, maybe they can get someone they feel a little better about casting a vote for in the general.