During an interview on The Daily Beast’s The New Abnormal podcast, former federal prosecutor Barbara McQuade made it clear that there’s plenty of evidence for the Justice Department to indict former President Donald Trump immediately if they decide to do so.

Referencing a legal analysis she published last week that made the case for charging Trump, McQuade told hosts Molly Jong-Fast and Andy Levy that there’s more than enough evidence that Trump was involved in a conspiracy to defraud the U.S. and also noted his attempt to harass former Vice President Mike Pence into blocking the certification of Joe Biden as President, Raw Story reports.

McQuade makes the case in her “prosecution memo” that Trump attempted “to pressure Mike Pence to abuse his authority as vice president in an attempt to overturn the 2020 presidential election on Jan. 6, 2021.”

Discussing it with Jong-Fast and Levy, she laid the situation out, asserting: “What he did is actually pretty clear: public and private statements about pressuring Mike Pence.”

McQuade even said there’s enough information in the public domain itself that proves Trump knew exactly what he was doing by attempting to commit fraud in an ill-fated effort to overturn the election results and then doing nothing as a violent mob, angry that Pence didn’t capitulate, stormed the Capitol and terrorized lawmakers.

“I took a very narrow focus and there may be additional crimes solely related to his pressure on Mike Pence,” McQuade said. “I conclude that there were two committed, one is conspiracy to defraud the United States by obstructing the certification by the vice president, the other is obstruction of an official proceeding; that proceeding is where they were certifying the election.”

Then she explained that she compiled “all the information that is out there,” and said that prosecutors can also use the same charge special counsel Robert Mueller implemented when he indicted the Internet Research Agency in 2018.

“It’s not a far-fetched legal theory,” she said. “The idea is that, if you use fraud to obstruct some lawful operation of government, it is a crime.”

Furthermore, McQuade said, prosecutors don’t have to catch Trump in the middle of a lie. All they have to do is prove he engaged in “willful blindness” about it.

She further noted that this would mean a person ‘was aware of a very high probability that the fact was true, but they simply turned a blind eye to the thing that they did not want to acknowledge.”

“I think you can’t help but conclude that Donald Trump knew that there was no fraud here,” McQuade said.

I’m pretty certain Trump was trying to get his own way and thought he’d be able to do it. Fortunately, he was wrong. So even though this seems to be taking forever, I’m hopeful federal prosecutors will soon feel they have the necessary information.

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