Election 2020

Mike Pence Has Some Secret Evidence Against Trump That Could Bring Trump Down for Good

Former Vice President Mike Pence has few good points, but the fact that he recorded copious notes discussing his conversations about ex-President Donald Trump’s efforts to upend the 2020 election, can be considered one of his good points. And these notes are cited in Trump’s latest indictment.

Justice Department officials have long been eyeing him as a potential key witness in the federal inquiry, and he may now have provided especially incriminating evidence against his former boss as the DOJ pays special attention to the “contemporaneous notes” he kept, Newsweek reports.

The allegations could show further evidence that Trump pushed forward with his attempts to overturn the 2020 election, even though he fully understood his attempts to do this had no legal merit.

Special Counsel Jack Smith has led an exhaustive investigation into the events that spurred the January 6 attack and has led to four criminal charges for Trump. It couldn’t happen to a nicer guy, could it? And of course, the current frontrunner in the 2024 GOP primary denies he did anything wrong and is accusing Smith of “election interference” with his investigation.

Trump and Pence’s relationship became volatile as the January 6 attack unfurled, with Trump supporters shouting “Hang Mike Pence” and fully supporting Trump’s baseless complaints of election fraud and his claims that Pence had the power to reject the results.

Now, prosecutors have handed down a 45-page indictment that details the allegations against Trump, and they note Pence’s strict resistance and rejection of Trump’s “knowingly false claims” of election fraud and his pressuring the then-vice president to wield his ceremonial role at the certification proceeding on January 6, 2021, to fraudulently overturn the election results, per Newsweek.

The indictment includes examples taken directly from Pence’s “contemporaneous notes” which he wisely kept in late 2020 and through early 2021 about his conversations with Trump. I’m sure Pence was well aware that Trump would push him to refuse to certify the election results and kept these notes for protection.

And the former vice president later described how Trump pressured him time and again to block the congressional certification of the election on January 6.

“On December 29 [2020], as reflected in the Vice President’s contemporaneous notes, the Defendant falsely told the Vice President that the ‘Justice Dept was finding major infractions,” the indictment reports.

Also mentioned in the indictment? A meeting held on January 4, 2021 before the massive riot. Here Trump is alleged to have further pressured Pence to reject the electoral college votes during his ceremonial role of presiding officer of the Senate.

The meeting was held between Trump, Pence, and the unnamed “Co-Conspirator 2” one of several people not named in the indictment. These people are also accused of helping Trump. Co-Conspirator 2 is believed to be John Eastman, a former Trump attorney.

“During the meeting, as reflected in the Vice President’s contemporaneous notes, [Trump] made knowingly false claims of election fraud, including, ‘bottom line — won every state by 100,000s of votes’ and ‘we won every state,'” the indictment states.

Trump and Eastman allegedly asked Pence at the time to either unilaterally reject the slate of legitimate electors from the seven states being targeted, where President Joe Biden had won fairly, or send the questions regarding which states were considered legitimate to the legislature of each of the targeted states.

That led Pence to ask Eastman if returning the question to the states could be legally defensible, Eastman allegedly replied: “Well, nobody’s tested it before.”

Trump and Eastman are then alleged to have asked Pence to either unilaterally reject the slate of legitimate electors from the seven targeted states which President Joe Biden had won fairly, or send the question of which slate was legitimate to the targeted states’ legislatures.

“The Vice President then told [Trump], ‘Did you hear that? Even your own counsel is not saying I have that authority.’ The Defendant responded, ‘That’s okay, I prefer the other suggestion’ of the Vice President rejecting the electors unilaterally,” per the indictment.

So it’s no wonder Pence rejected this. He knew any and all of this was illegal and he didn’t want to be caught up in it. Perhaps Pence already knew that he intended to run in 2024, but whatever the reasons, he did the right thing for once.

And on Tuesday, in a series of tweets, he said that the indictment against Trump is a powerful reminder that “anyone who puts himself over the Constitution should never be President of the United States.”

While he makes some good points in the tweets above, his last tweet consists of his usual b.s.

As Governor of Indiana, Pence was patently anti-LGBTQ+ and you can bet he’ll still be this way as president if he’s elected. So yes, it’s good he refuted Trump’s intentions, but he’s still a dyed-in-the-wool Republican.

And no, that’s not a good thing.

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Megan has lived in California, Nevada, Arizona, Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, and Florida and she currently lives in Central America. Living in these places has informed her writing on politics, science, and history. She is currently owned by 15 cats and 3 dogs and regularly owns Trump supporters when she has the opportunity. She can be found on Twitter at https://twitter.com/GaiaLibra and Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/politicalsaurus

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